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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:26 pm 
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update:

1: 20.65
2: 49.63
3: 59:05

had a little less than 7m gold this time. my boss rush 2 just went absolutely perfect, everything died incredibly fast. I use the same equipment every time (illusion fist, berserker mail, bible, speed up, etc) except for for the following:

VK: Dagon, Brauner
Stellar Sword: "black" form of Death


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Hmm...well I got the initial strats for BR2 now, I just need confirmation on which tactic is faster against Brauner.

Strat 1: Jon in lead

Vampire Killer and all STR gear for Jon and Char (Tome X). Speed up and run until you're at whip tip length from Brauner. Start spamming VK critical while Charlotte attacks.

Strat 1: Jon in lead

Illusion Fist and all STR gear for Jon and Char (Tome X). Speed up and run until you reach Brauner. Start spamming IF while Charlotte attacks.

I tried both but they seem to do similiar death timings so I can't really tell which is faster.

Also is there a way to counter his blood fountain attack (the attack Brauner does after his paint stroke attack)? That's my main concern. Hercules Ring doesn't work against it.


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If he does the X shape paint strike, it should be possible to kill him before he starts the blood fountain, I think. I prefer IF, it's more consistent.

About IF, is there any situation where the special could be useful?


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Serris wrote:
If he does the X shape paint strike, it should be possible to kill him before he starts the blood fountain, I think. I prefer IF, it's more consistent.

About IF, is there any situation where the special could be useful?
if youj don't have fingers and can't push the button good?

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I can never kill him before the fountain. :shock:


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blood fountain? lost me.

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Okay, so I finally got this game and completed it normally so now I'm playing around with Richiter.

I've only really experimented with his course 1 boss rush but I think I've come up with a pretty good time (00:24:26) and I even got a video of it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=59iWP2FuECs

Those glitches I use on Balore and Gergoth still don't make much sense to me, but, yeah, if you got any questions about what the hell I'm doing or whatever just ask.

EDIT: Oh, wow... I feel dumb. I just figured out that you can use your second character's sub-weapon with R. That should speed things up a little bit.

EDIT 2: New video of a 00:23:38 run using Maria's dragon to take down Gergoth quickly:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DOPQ65U8bbc
And between the time I made that video and the time that it was ready to be watched I got a new record of 23:18 by using Maria's red birds against both Balore and Gergoth (I'm not sure if that's what made the difference though).


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Nice! I love it. :D

A couple of questions. The glitch makes you attack like 1209481048 times at once right? Like a group of unknown numbers will pop up. Is there a way to 100% pull it off?

Also the Book is mastered right?


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Persona wrote:
The glitch makes you attack like 1209481048 times at once right? Like a group of unknown numbers will pop up. Is there a way to 100% pull it off?

That's the one. It seems to work every time when I summon Maria in stay mode next to the enemy, throw a sub-weapon that remains on screen for a little while, and then simultaneously hit R and do Richiter's air dash attack.

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Also the Book is mastered right?

By book you mean the Bible sub-weapon right? 'Cause I don't think Richiter has the option of mastering his sub-weapons. Also, I didn't even use the Bible in my faster run.


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Richter can master his knife and bible if your Jonathan save has them mastered and you use the transfer glitch.

Are you going to do vids for BR 2 and 3? I wanna watch. :D


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Persona wrote:
Richter can master his knife and bible if your Jonathan save has them mastered and you use the transfer glitch.

That's interesting. I can't see it helping very much though. Maybe in the later courses.

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Are you going to do vids for BR 2 and 3? I wanna watch. :D

I'd like to, but they require WAY more planning. I went through course 2 a few times and it's tough. Brauner is probably the most annoying boss ever in boss rush. He's small so it's hard to hit him a million times with that glitch. His attacks are huge so it's unconvenient to keep my partner out because my MP will get zapped away. And then he has a ton of HP. All those factors lead to me running out of MP in the way beggining of the fight and then hacking at him with my whip for like 30 seconds before he actually dies. My goal from what I've seen so far is ~01:40:00 but my best time is only 02:05:28 right now. I can get out of Dagon's room in under a minute, and I can sometimes kill the sisters in one giant glitch combo, but Brauner takes a long damn time. When I get a consistent Brauner strategy I'll try to make a few videos, but that might take a while.


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Hmm I'll help think up of some tactics when I'm free. :o

Also for course 1, where you get hit on purpose by the Great Armor, is getting hit faster or pulling a combo attack to get through him faster?


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OAA

EDIT 3: new times
1: 33:00
2: 1:45:95
3: 1:46:11

EDIT: ok added my crummy strats per P's request

1:
Room 1,2: Super Jump over evrything
Balore: go up to him and hold UP, avoid his attack and repeat
Should be around 16 sec
EDIT 2: To get fastest time balore must use 2 horizontal punches since when you jump to dodge 2nd attack, youll still be dmging him so you can kill him @ 15 sec instead of 16 sec
Room 3,4: Super Jump over evrything
Gergoth: go up to him and hold UP. Let him hit you to wall. Hold UP since he should run into you, if he lives long enough to start retreating, throw axes

2:
Durah: position yourself so when you hold UP, the axe hits the tip of his hand. When he lunges at you, he should die before he hits you.
@ 5 sec
Behemoth: go up to him and hold UP. Hopefully he shouldn't hit you.
@ 11~12 sec
Pot: Stand 1/2 character distance away and hold UP. When he appears throw axe. If youre lucky, axe should hit twice, then he should start his red circle attack, so you can hit him with axe again. If youre lucky, you can sneak another axe in before he hides
@ 26 sec (best)
Astarte: go up to her and hold UP. If she does temptation attack 1st, you should kill her as she finishes her attack.
@ 35 sec (best)
Legion: throw axes at core.
@ 45 sec (best)
Fish monster: To get good time, you need to be lucky and hope he doesnt jump. Run into his mouth, and standing over his mouth, throw axe, it should hit twice. Repeat this.
@ 1:01 (best)
Sisters: If they dont do giant ice column attack, run up and hold UP. Should take less than 10 sec. If they do column attack, Loretta should spin away from you making this hard. I grab the orb for the brauner battle since its hard
@ 1:10 (best)
Brauner: ok he takes 1/2 dmg from axe so its hard. the two horizontal lines are worst. When he does a > blood, use puppet to goto other side. Avoid poison wheels. But just take the dmg from the two cursing ghosts to inflict dmg. When he does stoning head attack, stand 1 character distance away, underneath the painting and hold UP. You should be hitting him and avoiding all the heads.

3:
Super Jump over 1st room.
Creature: run up to him and hold UP. If he tries to do the grab attack, back dash or super jump
@ 15 sec
Super Jump over this room.
Medusa: just throw axes. If she does her tail attack, this is best since she doesnt move.
@ 40~45 sec
Super Jump over this room.
Mummy: run up to him and hold UP. I grab the orb here since werewolf is really hard.
@ 1:05 sec
Walk through this room
Werewolf: just run up to him and hold UP. Its better to let him grab and bite you since if you dodge it, he will retreat! Obviously, if he summons wolves, its gravy
@ 1:25 sec
Super Jump over this room.
Death: Hold UP underneath him. Your finishing time will be based on pure luck as in how many times death changes form


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BR3
I managed to be extremely lucky and get a time of 1:37:20

Creature: If he does machine gun attack, you should kill him with holding UP before his next attack. Your axe should dmg him and destroy all the bullets. And dash to leave this room!
@ 12 sec
Medusa: Dash the moment you enter the room and you should be able to avoid her gaze attack and summon medusa heads if she starts the attack with either of them. Again, hope she does the tail attack. If she starts off with the gaze attack, position youself so when you hold UP, you hit her while she transforms into a snakehead.
@ under 40 sec with optimal conditions
Mummy: Hope he does the 5 brick attack. If he does, just get hit by the first one and you should kill him before you get hit again!
@ under 1 min. Optimally, under 55 sec.
Ruler Sword room: Ok you got to be careful because if he does the horizontal swords when you reach the end corner, you need to throw an axe at the sword blocking the door and jump to kill the sword above you.
Werewolf: New strat. Stay away and throw axes. He should throw 2 lampposts (just get hit by them) and if youre out of grab range, he should summon wolves (go up to him and hold UP). You should get hit once and kill him soon after. Dash to leave room.
@ under 1:15 with optimal conditions
Death: The best thing to hope for is that he starts the spinning sickle attack ASAP. Just hold UP and try to dodge the sickle by backdashing (you will still hit him with the axe while backdashing!). Get to end by dashing!

EDIT:
BR1

New strat with balore: After you get hit by vertical punch, if you jump forward, youll recover and kill him before reach ground. You can kill him under 15 sec this way.

Also, when leaving Gergoth's room, double jump to exit.

I got a new time of 32:35 with these strats

EDIT 2:

Ok I finally got myself to record a BR1 video

http://youtube.com/watch?v=sakyMt0PjR4

Good: I managed to execute my jumps perfectly so when I entered rooms 1, 2 and 4, I did a mid-air Super Jump instead of landing then Super Jumping. Also I didnt realize I could just dodge Balore's vertical punch until this attempt. D:

Bad: Too slow to leave Gergoth's room.

I prefer to play BR without music.

Overall this is close to perfect as you can get and anything under 33 sec has to be considered excellent.

EDIT 3: How dumb can I get... If you backdash twice instead of getting hit by Gergoth, you can save 1 sec allowing you to get a time under 32 sec.

EDIT 4: Video. 31:37

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxeYTZ-8Ex0

EDIT 5: Video. 30:31. P's tips when to throw axes cut 1 sec out of total time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WluOYiBy8eE

EDIT 6: I got a vid with the time 28:80 that will be hosted on this site with explanation of the strategy.


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How do you get sub-30 seconds with the Sisters in course 1? Best time I got was 00:30:10, and that was pretty much flawless, unless there's a spot where switching to Stella is worth the time loss.


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