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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:25 am 
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I am doing a NG+ and i checked the first posts, thanks for that it helped me alot. Serris, how do you enter City of Haze without the Lizard tail?. And also how do you skip the Train in 13th Street?.

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Run towards the Lizard Tail gap next to the CoH portrait with fully charged Speed Up and crouch right before you reach it to slide into it. Change characters repeatedly while holding left until you're out.

As for the train, use an Axe or Alucard's Spear special right before the train hits you.

The route is on page 4, btw.

Edit: Moved current route into first post.


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Alrighty i will try that out, thanks you tons! ;) Yay i tried the tech to get into CoH without lizard tail, that is relaly cool. i will have to try that train one out on a new file.

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Can't you beat the game without lizards tail?
I think I did it once.
What relics do you absolutely need to beat the game?

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Lizard Tail (NG)
Change Cube
Call Cube
Push Cube
Strength Glove

That should be it, I think. Since Owl Morph isn't a relic, you can get it instead of Griffon Wing.


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Okay after ages I finally came back to continue the route discussion. Here's before Dullahan:

-Get Clover Tiara [sold for 250] - DEF 1 MND 2 - Equip with Charlotte for extra MND boost
-Get Leather Cuirass (optional) [sold for 125] - DEF 4
-Get White Corsage (optional) [sold for 175] - DEF 1
-Get Leather Corset (optional) [sold for 100] - DEF 3
-Get Green Tea Cake [sold for 115] - HP 90
-Get Cream Pie
-Get Claymore (optional) [sold for 200] - ATK 30
-Get Sandals (optional) [sold for 25] - DEF 1
-Get Leather Whip [sold for 250] - ATK 22 - Equip for Jonathan
-Get $1000 (optional)
-Get Skill Cube

Optional pretty much means you need to take a very small detour to get the item. Pretty much in a second or less. Anything longer than that and I pretty much ignored and didn't add to the list. You can view the optional items as extra boosts to your stats or just to sell them off for tonics or something.

Any optional item worth taking 100%?

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My first post.

I have one little questions. What is fastest method beat legion 2nd phase?

I see that main page route, but i think summon gunman is worse against his second form. I think axe sub weapon is best what i found my test run.

Axe caused 30+30 damage per throw. Whip cause only 20 damage and it is slow. Summon gunman is best weapon against his first form, but you can,t get hit against his second form.

but i see Satoury don,t get axe armors weapon. Is any weapon better than axe?

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darts and pies are the only subweapons to get, and the pies are only for Richter.

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Shuriken can be pretty useful, I recommend getting it after Overcome the Curse.


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Satoury wrote:

i think darts is very worse choose against legion 2nd phase.

pies caused only 7 damage per hit, and it is slow choose against legion 2nd phase.

Serris wrote.

I think you can complete overcome curse after Stella. But before legion i don,t have shuriken weapon yet.

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Well i use whip his second form and i use couple axe throw same time. Boss battle took overall 3-4 minutes beat. I think Legion is possible beat faster if you have better method against his second form.

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That's some messed up quoting. :3

Cream Pie is only used once for SP, not for damage. Nobody said you should use Darts. Shuriken isn't for Legion, but to speed up killing enemies in your way later on, for bosses (Dagon), and it's just useful in general.


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Well. !

Is it possible beat legion second phase spikey boots jump method? just like Dagon method.

I don,t know working that because i don,t trying that method, but it can be very fast way, if it working.

I probably try that next time. It is probably worse idea, but it sounds like good.

I just beat Dagon my test run. Well my test run is new game+ mode run because it is easier practice. There is much more energy and magic, but i get same weapons as normal mode run. I test current any-% WR route, but i think i can find some different/faster methods than WR player.

We can see.

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You could try making Charlotte wait on one of the platforms, casting Summon Gunman with R while jumpkicking with Jonathan.


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Serris wrote:
That's some messed up quoting. :3


damn right it is.

M88, please get my name right. Satoryu, not satoury.

and i actually do use darts on Legion 2nd phase. there probably is something better, but this was most reliable.

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Your idea sound good serris. I probably test that my real speedrun. Dart BDS method sounds slow, because platforms is very small.

Sorry Satouryu. Your name is very hard. I don,t never learnt remember this. :? But i try. :) How you can remember this?

Well i beat Death battle. Finally i beat that without lose potions. I use WR method, but i think tempest and thunder magic, both working very good against his magic form, i use both attack. Darth backdash is best method against his grey form, just like satoryu method.

Next part is toad morph sandy grave and sisters fight. Sisters fight is possible beat without taunt. Can you skip taunt magic? It can save 10-12 seconds, because you don,t need that against sisters?

But why WR player get taunt magic? I can hit sanctuary without taunt, but it is harder, but possible.

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