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Author:  Satoryu [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:38 am ]
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i think this is the best NG route until something big comes up.

Entrance -- helmet, activate warp, 1st quest, buy map + Dart

City of Haze -- Summon Skeleton, Cream Pie + food, Claymore, equip Leather Whip, Dullahan, moonwalkers, push relic

-- Dullahan -- one pie, Skeleton chr + Leather Whip

Castle -- sell for tonics, partner jump to Knee Smash, equip Iron Plate, activate NoF warp, Summon Gunman, activate next warp, Double Jump, Axe Bomber

Sandy Grave -- equip Steel Whip, knee strike up, Astarte, push relic

-- Astarte -- bds Dart, Axe Bomber

Nation of Fools -- partner jump up, activate warp, up to right, equip Spiked Boots

-- Legion -- Gunman chr, Dart, pie on last hit

Tower -- activate warp, Stella, get taunt + curse, warp to Wind, overcome curse x4 + spinning art + art of zephyr, battle axe + dark rift + spirit light + hipos + hitonics, warp

-- Stella -- Gunman, Dart, Axe Bomber

Forest of Doom -- Dagon -- Dart, Spirit light, Spiked Boots

Sandy Grave -- middle warp, right, Sanctuary, warp out

Castle -- warp to Tower, Tempest, HPMax, MPMax, Rose Whip

-- Death -- Tempest chr, bds Dart

Master's Keep -- HPMax, Sisters, Richter

Forgotten City -- Attica Helmet, Gryffon Wing

-- Mummy Man -- bds Dart

13th st -- Samurai Leg, Assassins Cape

-- Werewolf -- VKsp, Spirit Light

Dark Academy -- Mercury Boots

-- Creature -- VK sp, Dark Rift

Burnt Paradise -- right, Tome of Arms 3

-- Medusa -- VK, Spirit light

Castle -- Brauner, restock, MPMax, Dracula

-- Brauner -- VKsp, Spirit light

also get the remaining SP for the pie on Hill Guards, the Glasya Labolas, and the first room of the Tower of Death

test run got a time of 1:08. i'm not sure if sub hour is possible. the time i'd aim for is 1:05.

Author:  Persona [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:42 am ]
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Is the moonwalkers for backdash cancelling?

Author:  Serris [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:50 am ]
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Are the Winged Boots not worth getting?

Author:  Satoryu [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:33 am ]
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nah.

Author:  Necrosnake [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:45 am ]
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I think they re knda needed for speed on a NG since you don't have black panther. I could be wrong though, I never tried to find a quick way around since I just use black panther all the time. (by blacl panther I mean speed up)

Author:  Satoryu [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:19 pm ]
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i don't think the speed increase is big enough, how far out of the way are they?

Author:  Necrosnake [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:41 pm ]
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Satoryu wrote:
i don't think the speed increase is big enough, how far out of the way are they?
Not at all. If I'm thinking of the winged boots and not Mercury boots, then they're on the way to the forest painting. The secret room in the motorcycle hallway.

Author:  Satoryu [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:51 pm ]
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the slick boots are in the motorcycle hallway.

Winged boots are WAY out of the way. Mercury boots, however, aren't. i'll tack them onto the list, but they won't save more than a minute, maybe two.

Author:  Serris [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 5:59 pm ]
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Did a SS playthrough following your route for the most part (ignored the strength-boosting gear later on). Well, almost SS. I decided to save before Drac with 1:41:50 on the clock, and that was a good idea. For some reason, I can't stop True Drac's OHKO attack. I'm Lvl. 23 and the wings close in, start shaking and crush me immediately regardless of what I'm doing. I don't get it. :/

Author:  Satoryu [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:48 pm ]
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it could be because you didn't pick up the strength boosting stuff, maybe not. having Charlotte on backup with Tome 3 saved my ass a lot.

Author:  Serris [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:10 pm ]
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It worked now, for whatever reason. Time after final blow: 1:48:34. Is Axe Bomber really worth the detour? I didn't use it at all, and Spirit Light wasn't really useful to me, either.

Author:  Satoryu [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:36 pm ]
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unless I'm missing something, Stella goes down much quicker with Axe Bomber. Spirit of Light was basically to add a little bit more damage to some fights, mostly Medusa.

Author:  Necrosnake [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 11:18 pm ]
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Serris wrote:
It worked now, for whatever reason. Time after final blow: 1:48:34. Is Axe Bomber really worth the detour? I didn't use it at all, and Spirit Light wasn't really useful to me, either.
Axe works great on him. You can spam those while charlotte does nothing. I forgot where axe bomber was, but the odds of not haing an axe by the end are pretty slim.

Author:  Satoryu [ Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:01 am ]
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unless if you never kill an Axe Armor, which is what I do.

Author:  Necrosnake [ Wed Mar 14, 2007 7:38 am ]
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Satoryu wrote:
unless if you never kill an Axe Armor, which is what I do.
Oh >_> Well can you buy them? I haven't played in a while. Been trying to charm someone.

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