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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 5:25 pm 
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OMG great tip StuckInAPlate! :P


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Nice. :)

Is anyone gonna record a run? I'd REALLY like to see one. The SDA topic is pretty much dead at the moment. I don't care about DS Lite and quality, as long as you can tell what's going on, I'm fine. :)


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I did some tests on the speed of each method of travel. Use [url=http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/jaebird_cvdos_20050921.gif]this[/url] map to understand what I'm talking about.

From the beginning of (U, 18) to the end of (U, 18) ~1 map unit:
Walking - 3.0 seconds
Valkyrie - 3.3 seconds
Werewolf + Bullet soul - 1.9 seconds
(and just so we can be sad) Black Panther - 1.0 seconds

From the beginning of (V, 7) to the end of (V, 8) ~2 map units:
Walking - 6.0 seconds
Valkyrie - 4.4 seconds
Werewolf + Bullet soul - 3.7 seconds
Black Panther - 1.8 seconds

From the beginning of (T, 41) to the end of (T, 43) ~3 map units:
Walking - 9.0 seconds
Valkyrie - 5.5 seconds
Werewolf + Bullet soul - 5.5 seconds
Black Panther - 2.7 seconds

From the beginning of (U, 46) to the end of (U, 49) ~4 map units:
Walking - 11.1 seconds
Valkyrie - 6.4 seconds
Werewolf + Bullet soul - 7.1 seconds
Black Panther - 3.4 seconds

So if there is a straight path that's 3+ map units long, then I'd say go with Valkyrie. Werewolf + Bullet soul is still much better for area's under 3 map units long and areas that change direction often or have straight drop offs.


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http://persona.world.free.fr/downloads/untitled.JPG

These are pretty much the only places I can think of Valkyrie might being fast enough, although after seeing StuckInAPlate's tests, I doubt most of the spots I pointed are useless for Valkyrie.

So the 2 questions are:

-Are there other places for Valkyrie?

-Can someone test these? (Most probably StuckInAPlate :D)

Serris: I doubt I'll be capping anything since I don't got a cam. Also for your labs route, wouldn't taking the left side be faster than thr right? Since the right is zigzagged (although you didn't draw it zigzagged on your map).


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I don't really need to test to tell you that all of those places are fastest with Valkyrie. However, I think that Valkyrie is also very useful in these spots (exept for maybe the Pinnacle room with the final guards... I don't usually go down there and I can't remember what the floor looks like):
http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=valklv5.png


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Yeah, it really isn't hard to figure out where Valkyrie could be useful. StuckInAPlate already said it:

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So if there is a straight path that's 3+ map units long, then I'd say go with Valkyrie.


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Serris: I doubt I'll be capping anything since I don't got a cam. Also for your labs route, wouldn't taking the left side be faster than thr right? Since the right is zigzagged (although you didn't draw it zigzagged on your map).


Of course. I'm just dumb. :)


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Ah, ok. :)

For I, 42, you can use Final Guard soul to get through the top path. Or is there a more simple way?


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Persona wrote:
For I, 42, you can use Final Guard soul to get through the top path. Or is there a more simple way?


That works perfectly. After "Guard" appears you can just Werewolf + Ukoback right through to the hole in the ceiling. :D


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Nice, I didn't think of dashing after the first Final Guard, I usually just use two. :P *notes it*


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I decided to record a run since my friend has a vid cam though it's probably a crappy run cuz I let all errors slide (he doesn't have the patience) and I have only 1 available file so I can't really retry.

But a good start to point out errors so we can make a better NG+ run. :P

So far I'm at Death at around 28 mins.


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Awesome! I'm looking foward to seeing it. :D


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35:54 with Menace dead. :oops:

Probably will aim for 30-32 mins next time. Maybe even under 30 mins.


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So ... how's it going? Can't wait to see a run. :)


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I'll release it in early October (most probably Oct 1) on the same day as my CV site. :P


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Just finished watching. Some suggestions:

- More Valkyrie. Maybe I'll draw another map ... :o

- Gaibon + Slogra backdash spam and / or Alura Une on Aguni and "I'm-not-gonna-come-down"-Death might be faster.

- It was probably just a mistake, but 14:40 into the run, you don't have to wait for the right platform to rise, just board the one on the left, maybe with the help of Flying Armor.

Well, yeah, practice run, but it's still 2-3 minutes better than my record. I guess Werewolf + Ukoback really pays off. However, sub-30 seems unlikely to me.


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